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Post by ANTISFIT on Mar 26, 2008 22:08:53 GMT
Ok, this is another thing that i thought about.
when we train, do we rely too much on one part of our body?
say, for example, an arm jump.
when you do an arm jump, do you place too much reliability on your arms?
what would happend, if the surface you land on breaks, or you slip?
the main possibility is that you will fall backwards, as way too much emphasis is put onto your arms.
as lnog as you know your arms are going to land, you have the strength to keep yourself stable, without over-emphasis.
if your feet land correctly, there is minimal pressure used, and you can land alot better, decreasing chances of slipping/breaking what you land on.
then, what would happen if this obstacle DID break even then?
whout over emphasis by arms, you will have more capability in remaining in a position where you can land and not damage yourself in the same way of if you fell backwards.
its just a thought though, and i'd like to hear what you have to think on this.
thank you for taking the time to read.
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Post by gladders on Mar 27, 2008 9:54:14 GMT
yet agian another excelent post by ant  i feel that many people do not emphasise this enough, ive seen injurys such as a knee cap knocked out of position from under emphasise of a vault, the vault was fine but there was not enough in his landing, so the ground was wet and ka-splat, he was out for about 6 weeks. |
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Post by ANTISFIT on Mar 27, 2008 22:00:45 GMT
haha, thank you mate :]
yeah, when you do a movement, you've always got to have your mind focused, don't let it wonderr
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Post by kidkunjer on Apr 15, 2008 13:47:14 GMT
i never use any obstacle unless i can give it a massive shake first.
but back on topic i overuse my arms i believe, not building muscles (espescially the little tiny ones) in areas that are underused is dangerous. can lead to misplaced confidence and therefore whipeout.
i think it is important to constantly self evaluate and apply to training to erradicate such weakness'
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Post by jon G on Apr 15, 2008 16:46:06 GMT
yes if you do not build up your muscles in all areas at the same rate then the weaker ones will eventually give way and you will seriously hurt youself. try training your muscles you dont feel confident with as then they will get stronger and you can relie on not getting damaged.
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Post by scuttle on May 20, 2008 19:37:55 GMT
Parkour is generally not a safe sport- if your foot slips or an obstacle breaks beneath you its tough s***  - It is the possibility of danger that gives you the adrenaline rush ;D I do loads of extreme sports, and its never good to think about the "what if's...". If you fall because you don't have the confidence to rely on your body to commit to a certain move, it will be more likely to result in injury than falling due to weak or fragile obstacles. But, obviously you should quickly check an obstacle, but always checking obstacles means you'll get no flow  |
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Post by bradbates15 on May 22, 2008 18:50:41 GMT
parkour isn't a sport  and i would have to disagree with the 'its not a safe sport' because it is only as dangerous as the people who are willing to push it if your sensible and don't push yourself then you will minimize risk of injury don't do anything that you dont feel happy doing you will know when you are ready for a new challenge/obstacle sorry for going of the topic by the way |
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Post by ANTISFIT on May 22, 2008 21:07:05 GMT
sorry for going of the topic by the way mehh parkour topics are all really based around one topic aslong as you stick to parkour you're good by me |
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Post by Lukman on May 23, 2008 14:16:25 GMT
Surely, to perfect one's parkour, one must become adaptable to any environment, in any conditions? Surely this includes times when you could become injured, or are injured, or somebody else is injured? I have found that as my skill increases, my ability to adapt does also, through improved coordination and proprieception. I have never trained to fall off a bike rail because somebody spilt jelly nearby. I have never trained to land on railings, torso first. I have never trained to fall two storeys onto stairs. However, I have done these things unplanned, sustaining minimal injury, because my body knows how to change what it's doing to protect itself. Parkour is generally not a safe sport You're generally not correct. Sorry. It is the possibility of danger that gives you the adrenaline rush ;D No it isn't. It's the danger itself. If you're in a situation where adrenaline comes into play, get out, get your head straight. Adrenaline diminishes fine motor function, impairs peripheral vision and makes you stupid. If you fall because you don't have the confidence to rely on your body to commit to a certain move, it will be more likely to result in injury than falling due to weak or fragile obstacles. If you don't have the confidence to execute the move, don't do it. Make yourself capable, and then do it. But, obviously you should quickly check an obstacle, but always checking obstacles means you'll get no flow Check obstacles carefully when you train parkour, such that you don't have to think so much when you use parkour. Run, jump, climb and vault imperfect or unusual obstacles, such that you do not rely too heavily on nicely placed walls or railings. Run, jump, climb and vault obstacles in the "wrong" way, such that you do not rely too heavily on one way of doing things. Problem solved. Ker-CHING! Sorry, Scuttle. Got a bit carried away there. |
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Post by scuttle on May 23, 2008 18:11:24 GMT
Firstly, bradbates15, ok, i know, parkour is a discipline- SORRY. Lukman can you elaborate on your first critiscism- how is parkour safe?!
Secondly, i got a bit carried away, which lead to inaccuracies- such as the above- i meant to write injury, not danger! Also adrenaline only causes tunnel vision (call it what you will) in extreme physical exertion, when your heart rate is well over 180bpm. Furthermore, the fine motor function again won't affect parkour unless taken to the extreme. This is proved in the world of extreme adrenaline sports, where an FMX rider can jump a 40ft ramp time and time again, which also brings g-forces into the equation, whilst performing intricate tricks.
Thirdly, your comment is true, but i was giving a scenario. you can lose confidence at a point of no return, such as in mid-air or on a run-up. This causes you to tense up and lose control on the landing- muscles are the best body armour, however tensing the wrong ones on impact will result in a worse injury than if you had stayed loose.
Finally, when I train, i use the moves as a latter part of my warm-up, so when i actually train, i go full whack at each obstacle continuously. If you only train by performing the moves individually, you are more of a gymnast than a traceur. Parkour is the moves and running combined, so that is the way it should mainly be practised.
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- It is the possibility of danger that gives you the adrenaline rush ;D
