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Post by ANTISFIT on Mar 20, 2008 23:06:07 GMT
Basically, i thought i'd make a little article about these sorts of subjects with tendon damage. Basically, these consist of inflammation of the tendons, as well as collagen degeneration. As we all practice parkour, our tendons are taking alot of stress, and are more than likely to pick up damging, microtears for example (patellar tendonitis) Basically, if you pick up either, you have to generally rest it out for 6 weeks or so (ask dean/zen)
Now, of course i don't want anyone to get it, so, i thought i'd give you an explanation into the prevention of these conditions. The answer is, Jelly.(Gelatin).
basically, as you know, to get gelatin, the bones of animals are heated up, and the protein known as collagen is removed, as a main ingredience (won't go into detail about the process) Our tendons are made up of mainly this protein, collagen. When you eat gelatin, the collagen will be absorbed into your body, and will be set to work in repairing damage to the tendons, and make them stronger. And so, you can prevent tendonitis/patellar tendonitis/etc.
Thanks for reading. Any thoughts?
EDIT: i've just been reading up on the internet, and vitamin c is also major in forming collagen, and is generally amazing in the human body, for the immune system. I'll post something later about this new government craze about vitamins being bad.
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Post by gladders on Mar 21, 2008 12:35:08 GMT
Wow this is a great article ant, its really improved the understand of tendons etc for me ! HAHA jelly, as simple as pie ;D wicked man, il be sure to use this wisely 
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Post by ANTISFIT on Mar 21, 2008 20:49:07 GMT
thanks man :]
it was something i was told about on a trip i went on, and thought i'd do some research to back it up, so it wasn't just a theory.
jelly is also good for things like fingernails.
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Post by gladders on Mar 22, 2008 19:57:41 GMT
HAHAH
everyone needs finger nails ;D
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Post by kidkunjer on Apr 2, 2008 12:04:49 GMT
as i got tendonitis of sorts i'm going to the shop right now to get jelly. you better not be pulling my leg. Are there many people who've had inflamed tendons and come back to parkour and got back to their previous level? after months of sitting out i'm starting to loose the faith i will ever recover.
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Post by ANTISFIT on Apr 2, 2008 12:41:54 GMT
my mate dean has recently had it, was training with him recently, and he seems to be back at his original level already.
another thing i noticed in holland & barrett the other day was glucosamine tablets. as you may know, some contain ingredients such as MSM and choindratin (sp?). BUT i noticed yesterday some that contained Collagen, which is what is in jelly
But, my initial post was generally for prevention, it may take some time to work, but it should generally help.
Keep checking back and tell us what happens?
I haven't gone full out for all of this, i've asked a biologist and researched on the internet, but if i were to come out with facts i woul;d have gone into alot more detail.
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Post by gladders on Apr 2, 2008 12:54:01 GMT
ant im finding your posts so useful
the one problem i have with injuries that i loose confidence so fast after ive injured myself, sitting out just gets me down so much - so i carry on training which i know is wrong, but to be honest - i dont traien heavily if i do
i will have to take your advise with those tablets etc
thanks ;D ;D
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Post by kidkunjer on Apr 2, 2008 13:14:32 GMT
thanks, that's very comforting 
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Post by ANTISFIT on Apr 22, 2008 13:52:51 GMT
added a little bit to this
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Post by Lukman on Apr 24, 2008 8:45:02 GMT
Has it occurred to you, Ant, that you don't really know what you're talking about?
Eating jelly isn't a solution to anything.
Just because it contains collagen, doesn't mean your body will repair collagen. You ought to know that your body has to break proteins down into their constituent amino acids in order to absorb them. All bar the essential amino acids can be synthesised by the body from other amino acids.
If eating jelly repaired collagen, then jelly eaters would not need bifocals. This is clearly not the case.
If you want your body to repair itself, you should train carefully, and ensure your body has a balanced supply of nutrients and micronutrients.
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Post by ANTISFIT on Apr 24, 2008 11:43:32 GMT
that was actually a point i thoguht i had been included, but i obviously left it out.
But, seeing as jelly helps in fingernails (keratin, which is also found in the gelatin), then the effects should be the same for the collagen.
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Post by Lukman on Apr 25, 2008 11:30:41 GMT
Clearly, you have not thought this out.
1) Your body reassembles amino acids into proteins. The proteins you digest are less important than the mixture of amino acids you digest. Eating collagen does not mean your body produces collagen.
2) The nails and hair are constructed continually throughout life. The body will readily produce keratin in these tissues until you die. Tissues supported by collagen gradually degrade throughout your life. This is why skin wrinkles, and eyesight fades. Eating collagen does not mean your body produces collagen.
3) Collagen constitutes roughly a quarter of the protein of your body, but your diet need not be 25% jelly. Eating collagen does not mean your body produces collagen.
4) Try an analogy. Drinking milk does not make you lactate. A high sugar diet does not make you sweet. Similarly, eating collagen does not mean your body produces collagen.
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Post by ANTISFIT on Apr 25, 2008 13:48:56 GMT
yeah but its a protein and the amino acid code is similar to that of collagen so, higher chance of producing collagen
and skin fades mainly due to lack of nutrition in diet phycic acid for example prevents this from happening, whereas food of today dehydrates the skin.
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Post by Ronin-ukpka admin on Apr 26, 2008 7:43:55 GMT
i dont really know enough about this to back up anyone but i would have thought that eating excessive amounts of jelly wouldnt be great advise for a healthy lifestyle. i take care in my diet and if i ate loads of jelly i would end up having to change my diet considerably, (macro-nutrient ratio). it may, (or may not), help in one area, but it could create problems in other areas. balance is the key. or rather eating a balanced diet and training in a balanced way will help you avoid being in this situation in the first place.
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Post by ANTISFIT on Apr 26, 2008 20:18:49 GMT
ah yeah, sorry if i didn't actually say, but i didn't mean in excessive consumption, of course in moderation & sticking to a healthy lifestyle
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