Precision/jump

[crawty]

This thread is for the discussion of the movement prescission / jump.

A precision jump is a movement where you land on to a small or precise point. This can be applied to many movements... jumps, vaults etc.

When practising precisions you need to be extra careful as landing on small area requires concentration and balance. Absorbing the impact is very important using your legs to bend down to a comfortable point to be able to control the jump. In some circumstances you can also use your hands to help control and absorb impact.

[bradbates15]

with jumping try to get abit more height
so its easy to land and your not traveling too fast
and for a more quite landing aim for the balls of your feet
i know a guy who precisions and uses his 'flat' trainers to land and balance perfect
its quite annoying

[ANTISFIT]

yeah, when you jump, go up, so that you come down onto the obstacle.

this means the momentum is lost, and the impact is more easily absorbed

this also leads to a much quieter landing

[crawty]

thumper said:

yeah, when you jump, go up, so that you come down onto the obstacle.

this means the momentum is lost, and the impact is more easily absorbed

this also leads to a much quieter landing

Also this point is very important when surfaces are wet. Hitting the obstacle/surface at a angle could possibly cause you to slip easily ! If you come down onto the obstacle it will reduce the chance of you slipping by loads!

[Ronin-ukpka admin]

im really enjoying getting back into training my precisions. i try and just focus entirely on the exact point i want to land on, and block out everything around me.
plus, nothing gives me more pleasure then controlling and sticking a jump, it feels good.

[Parkour Anarchy]

I love doing precision Jumps. A precision Jump was the first Parkour move I did. I did it in my back garden pillar to pillar.

One my friends tried to do a precision, we'd both done it lots of times before, but he jumped awkwardly and one of his feet slipped when he landed. It looked rally painful.

What realy helps me when I jump it just going for it 100% and just forget what might happen if I fail, the thought of hurting themselves always stops many of my friends from doing a Precision.

[ANTISFIT]

there are no parkour moves for a start.

he shouldn't hurt himself if he is comfortable with what he does

and, the attitude of "f*ck it.. i'm doing it" is really bad, its often not a controlled movement, something out of comfort zone, and can be very dangerous for you

[Parkour Anarchy]

IT isn't a F*ck it attitude. It's I decide what I'm going to do do, then I commit to it, I don't start jumping, then think, ah what if.. what if? and bail. I go for it and concentrate on what I'm doing.

[pkjsy]

yer but what ant is saying is that you should just risk progressing your level without thought, u should progress slowly and bit by bit to reduce risk, i used to have a f**k it attitude and thats how i dis located my knee, i learnt no to have that attitue the hard way

[ANTISFIT]

sorry, read through it again.

what i thought you said was that
"i don't care if i could get hurt.. f*ck it"
sort of thing

but yeah, always stay in your comfort zone.
sideflips on flat when knees weren't strong enough = dislocated knee

[crawty]

You should only be trying movements when your body is ready. There shouldnt be a reason to psyche yoursell up or go mental as that isnt parkour.

[Lukman]

I can't believe you guys haven't mentioned the really simple principle of eqivalence.

Measure the distance / height you jump against the size of your shoes / feet. Measure the size of the gap / obstacle you want to overcome with your shoes / feet.

If you can jump, and have jumped, an equivalent distance, then you are capable of executing the jump you want to. If you've never jumped an equivalent distance, then you must do so. If you can't jump an eqivalent distance, you must make yourself capable.

As far as I can see, pretending there are no surrounding obstacles, ignoring the possiblity of injury, saying f*ck it and going hell for leather, is harmful. You should be aware of what you do. The real aim is to be capable of executing the required technique without having to think about it.

bradbates15 said:

i know a guy who precisions and uses his 'flat' trainers to land and balance perfect
its quite annoying

Maybe you could get this guy to jump to the target, then jump again. His aim should be to land silently and control it, so that he can stay there or jump effectively straight away from the same landing position. He should see the biomechanical advantages of landing correctly...

This reminds me of ⇒ this article ⇐ on jumping I wrote over a year ago, while I couldn't actually walk. I'm always tempted to rewrite properly, or combine it with my landing article, or go into the biomechanics of jumping...

But anyway. Saut de precision. Relatively simple technique, but so many little things to tweak that it takes years of practice and / or help from experienced traceurs to make it as good as it could be. Practice is key.

[Parkour Anarchy]

I know someone who has the F*ck it attitude and he tries everything wothout properly measuring it up or anything, the rest of us try to dicourage him, but he just does it anyway, he usually makes it, but one day he's gonna hurt himself badly.

I don't think f*ck it like him, I can never do anything without pdroperly working it out, for instance a precision jump. I see a new gap. I go over, stand beside it or what ever and see whether firsdtly if i think it is possible for me to do. I then climb up to the top and jump to the side onto the ground beside it if possible, so I can see if I can make it. After that I will concentrate on the spot where I'm going to jump to and commit fully. If there is no ground to the side then I'd try doing a cat on it or something similar.
Its the same if I'm going to vault something, I see if theres a big drop the other side, I note the height, and how much space I've got to land etc. I don't just run up and do it like the guy I know who thinks f*ck it and tries it. He's lucky he hasn't seriously injured himself yet.

[Lukman]

I warn kids nowadays about what happenned to Dave, Sean, and Rory especially.

Dave had more balls than brains. He'd vault anything, jump any gap, and not fear pain or injury. He messes up ankles permanently, and every few months he tries to start training, he can't help himself, tries to b-twist and cripples himself anew.

Sean had talent, but more than that he had determination and desire to improve. His tricks were sharp, his diving vaults were unsurpassed, and parkour became his life. He nailed somersaults of all types, off obstacles as tall as he could manage... Until one day he stepped out of his door, and one of his foot bones collapsed. He got angry at everything, hung with chavs, and ended up beating up ex-traceurs with his new friends.

Saddest of all is Rory.

He is the original Norwich traceur, having trained in London years before Jump London or Jump Britain. He introduced me, Andeh, and dozens of others to parkour. He pushed himself harder than anyone else, but before we had all learnt the value of conditioning. His knees gave way gradually over the years I trained with him, until one day he tried an enormous vault over a concrete planter after having been unable to train regularly for 5 months. He caught both kneecaps, and couldn't walk for weeks.

He still feels passionate about parkour, and has a burning hatred for anyone who would abuse the art, or pull stupid n00bish stunts in the name of parkour. He still has the parkour vision, everywhere he goes, but every time he tries to be more than a pedestrian, his knees get even worse.

Even ignoring the tragedies, I can tell the kids about the way people like Brendan, Dickie and I have damaged our joints through stupidity before we trained parkour properly.

If people truly understand the consquences of their actions, they ought to act more carefully...

[gladders]

sorry

im not sure if i missed it all the way up there ^^^^
but do you land on the balls of your feet or the centre?